http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/feed/? Latest topics Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:20:51 GMT 10 http://illiweb.com/fa/logo_en.gif http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/feed/? http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/forum-business-f3/kinda-quiet-t20.htm UltIntLang Personally, I've had other responsibilities to take care of. But I don't want it to be that nothing happens if I'm not here to keep it moving. Conversation doesn't have to be restricted to 'the new language'. Have some fun. Talk about your favourite languages. Play some word games, whatever. I'll post more as I have time. I encourage you all to do the same! Forum Business Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:02:00 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/forum-business-f3/kinda-quiet-t20.htm#194 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/forum-business-f3/kinda-quiet-t20.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/introductions-f2/hello-t22.htm DanaNutter I just recently found out about this group from a post on AUXLANG which discussed the parallels between this project and one that I started on Yahoo about two years ago called Demos which was my idea to get a group together to create an IAL through a democratic process. The group started out strong, then interest fizzled away fairly quickly though we did establish a phonology and orthography. At one point, I was going to kill the group but group members thought it would be worth preserving ... Introductions Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:20:51 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/introductions-f2/hello-t22.htm#205 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/introductions-f2/hello-t22.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/word-redux-t21.htm UltIntLang Firstly, apologies for neglecting the forum. I've had one or two other things to concentrate on, but hopefully the Lyn has been able to maintain order. In a previous thread (which for the life of me I can't find) someone stated that any new words created for a new language should be able to be described using "irreducible" words. I don't know if that's the correct technical word, but it basically means that a word should be able to be described by words that themselves don't need ... Miscellaneous Sat, 10 Nov 2007 17:18:21 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/word-redux-t21.htm#201 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/word-redux-t21.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/off-topic-f4/cool-websites-t8.htm UltIntLang Well, I've got to include some shameless plugs for a few favourite sites Cantr II (http://www.cantr.net) Text-based open-ended roleplaying society-sim. Actually very good, and much better than it might sound from that description! Homestar Runner (http://www.homestarrunner.com) Animated comedy fun stuff! There are also Homestar DVDs available. Xombie (http://www.xombified.com/) Animated fantasy series about a good zombie in a post-apocalyptic world. Will hopefully be released ... Off Topic Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:10:05 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/off-topic-f4/cool-websites-t8.htm#53 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/off-topic-f4/cool-websites-t8.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/vocabulary-t7.htm Steli single language or from multiple languages? If yes, which ones? Or
should we invent a completely new vocabulary?]]> Miscellaneous Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:50:52 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/vocabulary-t7.htm#49 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/vocabulary-t7.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/yahoo-group-archives-f5/2nd-intro-t15.htm UltIntLang Message #2 Thu Jun 15, 2006 lojbaner wrote: I'm stevo. I speak Esperanto and several European natlangs. I'm learning unusual conlangs, including Latejami, Klingon, Lojban, Ithquil. Esperanto as a IAL does have several drawbacks. 1) The accents are a nuisance, but using the x-code is an easy fix. Unicode and other new technologies are making this a problem of the past, but accents are a nuisance. Period. 2) The issue of sexism is valid, but minor. There are word-arounds for this also. ... Yahoo Group archives Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:25:20 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/yahoo-group-archives-f5/2nd-intro-t15.htm#132 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/yahoo-group-archives-f5/2nd-intro-t15.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/yahoo-group-archives-f5/3rd-intro-t19.htm UltIntLang Message #17 Thu Jun 15, 2006 darlington_wx wrote: Hello, Ed, Stevo and, er, our group-owner (if you've introduced yourself by name, I must have missed that post). About time I stopped lurking. I'm Norman Darlington from Ireland, and first learned Esperanto when I was 12, then forgot all about it until a few months back (nearly 40 years later). My primary degree was in Ancient Semitic languages, and I know several European languages moderately well. I have at certain stages learned, used, ... Yahoo Group archives Wed, 03 Jan 2007 12:36:56 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/yahoo-group-archives-f5/3rd-intro-t19.htm#188 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/yahoo-group-archives-f5/3rd-intro-t19.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/yahoo-group-archives-f5/da-de-di-t18.htm UltIntLang Message #15 Thu Jun 15, 2006 ultintlang wrote:What are the meanings of the different forms of 'of' in Ido? Are 'de' and 'da' the same as in Esperanto? What of 'di'? Yahoo Group archives Wed, 03 Jan 2007 12:13:25 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/yahoo-group-archives-f5/da-de-di-t18.htm#186 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/yahoo-group-archives-f5/da-de-di-t18.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/yahoo-group-archives-f5/introduction-to-group-t14.htm UltIntLang Message #1 Wed Jun 14, 2006 edfaedrylaw wrote: I don't know the rest of you or the initiator of this group, but as there are now 4 of us, perhaps introductions are in order. I am Ed Robertson, and I am an active, but slightly dissident, Esperantist (or as I prefer to say, Esperanto speaker). This means that I do not go for the St. Ludovik hagiography, and have no time for the 19th century prescriptive and elitist attitudes inherent in the mechanism of, if not the current practice of, the Akademio ... Yahoo Group archives Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:40:59 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/yahoo-group-archives-f5/introduction-to-group-t14.htm#130 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/yahoo-group-archives-f5/introduction-to-group-t14.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/esperanto-reform-t17.htm Lyn
Unfortunately I don't have time to respond to previous comments at present. Bit of a family situation which is going to take up a fair bit of my spare time for the next couple of weeks or so. Sorry.]]> Miscellaneous Fri, 24 Nov 2006 12:34:57 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/esperanto-reform-t17.htm#183 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/esperanto-reform-t17.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/alphabet-t2.htm Steli I think someone has to start the discussion here, so I'll try. What do you think, wich alphabet should be used? Do you think a completely new alphabet should be made for the new language? How many and what sounds should be represented? Should diacritics be used? I personally would prefer the Latin alphabet (without diacritics). It is widely spread already, pretty international and easy to learn (as I think). What do you think? Miscellaneous Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:59:51 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/alphabet-t2.htm#3 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/alphabet-t2.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/correlatives-t16.htm Steli It may be better to open a new thread for this. The EO correlatives are a quite good idea in my opinion, I don't see a reason to change the whole principle. English is quite similar in some parts (where, there, here, everywhere, nowhere, somewhere, anywhere), so the general idea seems to work. I would just propose to make the correlatives less abstract. To be concrete, I would propose to compose the correlatives of words which have a meaning outside the correlative system. Let's give ... Miscellaneous Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:44:41 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/correlatives-t16.htm#175 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/correlatives-t16.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/general-thoughts-t11.htm Steli I think the very basic problem of all (or most) existing IALs is, that there is no really motivation to use them. If you create a language, no matter how well designed, there must be people who want to use it. How can we achieve that? I think one mayor problem may be the aspect of internationality. The more different languages with different grammars and different vocabularies a IAL tries to unite, the more compromises have to be made. As a result you'll get a language which will be equally ... Miscellaneous Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:25:12 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/general-thoughts-t11.htm#90 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/general-thoughts-t11.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/grammar-t9.htm Steli Do we need genders? Which tenses should be used? What about pre- and suffixes?]]> Miscellaneous Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:23:53 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/grammar-t9.htm#73 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/grammar-t9.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/personal-pronouns-t12.htm Lyn While we are considering the final form of the alphabet, I would like to start a new topic. Not completely new as we discussed it at some length on the old Yahoo group. That is, Personal Pronouns (or PP). In our discussions, we were dealing primarily with the basic personal pronouns. By this I mean Nominative Case (ie, as the Subject). The issue of whether or not the Accusative Case (ie, the Object) should have a different ending or be the same word was left in abeyance for the time being, ... Miscellaneous Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:18:44 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/personal-pronouns-t12.htm#98 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/personal-pronouns-t12.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/off-topic-f4/europanto-t10.htm Steli
http://www.neuropeans.com/topic/europanto/what/more.php

And try to read the texts too. It's quite fun. ]]> Off Topic Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:10:27 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/off-topic-f4/europanto-t10.htm#78 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/off-topic-f4/europanto-t10.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/stress-t6.htm Lyn Steli wrote:You shouldn't mix up stress with the Cantonese tones. The stress is not meant to make the language more komplex or even to differentiate words with the same spelling from each other (at least I hope this is not planned). Lyn just wants to make a rule for the stress because it would be a bit strange if a word like "unpredictable" is stressed unpredictable by one speaker and unpredictable by another and unpredictable by the next. In many languages the stress must be learned, ... Miscellaneous Fri, 06 Oct 2006 13:16:42 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/stress-t6.htm#21 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/miscellaneous-f1/stress-t6.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/introductions-f2/new-members-t5.htm Braxx hello, i am completely new, i heard about this forum through a game forum (cantr 2) great game neways...... i thoguht it would be interesting to check out the idea of an international language through which everyone may communicate with anyone on a common ground without a language barrier, as well as developing an alphabet as i have tried before (no related base for it just made up). i speak english, and know a reasonable amount of français and almost as much deutsch, as well as a few words and ... Introductions Thu, 05 Oct 2006 23:02:59 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/introductions-f2/new-members-t5.htm#17 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/introductions-f2/new-members-t5.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/forum-business-f3/how-to-make-tables-t4.htm UltIntLang No, not Basic Carpentry! Quote:does anyone know how to do a table It's possible to use the 'code' button on the far left of the posting 'toolbar'. It looks like a #. This retains all the text as written, though without formatting. But you could use that to get the text displayed with the correct spacing, creating a table like: Code: --a--b--c-- 1 a1 b1 c1 2 a2 b2 c2 3 a3 b3 c3 This isn't ideal, of course, because you can't format the 'code' and it removes any 'extra' spaces. Another ... Forum Business Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:22:22 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/forum-business-f3/how-to-make-tables-t4.htm#14 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/forum-business-f3/how-to-make-tables-t4.htm http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/forum-business-f3/old-yahoo-messages-t3.htm UltIntLang Steli's post reminded me that the old messages from the Yahoo group still need to be transferred over here into some kind of archive. I'll do what I can in that regard, though with around 120 messages it'll take some time. In the meantime, the messages themselves are still accessible in the Yahoo group, even by non-members. Don't worry! I won't delete anything til I've copied it here. Any input on this, this is the place for it! Forum Business Wed, 04 Oct 2006 16:38:53 GMT http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/forum-business-f3/old-yahoo-messages-t3.htm#4 http://ultintlang.conceptbb.com/forum-business-f3/old-yahoo-messages-t3.htm